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		<title>WSG photos from February, May and July</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight I finally got around to sorting through the photos I took at the past three Web Standards Group meeetings:


Web Standards Group (February 2009)
Web Standards Group (May 2009)
Web Standards Group (July 2009)


These photos are a mixture of the presenters:



the hosts:



the attendees:



and some food:



Now the question is: when is the next meeting?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight I finally got around to sorting through the photos I took at the past three <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/">Web Standards Group</a> meeetings:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157622642527795/">Web Standards Group (February 2009)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157622642579597/">Web Standards Group (May 2009)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157622766862676/">Web Standards Group (July 2009)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>These photos are a mixture of the presenters:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4089412832/" title="20090216T192357 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/4089412832_a430c5798a_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090216T192357" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4089436278/" title="20090520T191237_132-4856 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2507/4089436278_84c0387af4_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090520T191237_132-4856" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4088678649/" title="20090520T201803_132-4891 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2780/4088678649_ba55d2732e_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090520T201803_132-4891" border="0"  /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4089449576/" title="20090720T192711_132-7346 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/4089449576_d5c44530b1_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090720T192711_132-7346" border="0" /></a></p>

<p>the hosts:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4089409104/" title="20090216T190056 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2794/4089409104_92ebdd3528_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090216T190056" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4088675277/" title="20090520T191105_132-4848 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2570/4088675277_cb475b864c_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090520T191105_132-4848" border="0"  /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4088685907/" title="20090720T183643_132-7312 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2665/4088685907_1448727343_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090720T183643_132-7312" border="0" /></a></p>

<p>the attendees:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4088653103/" title="20090216T192822 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2491/4088653103_e84d927e3a_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090216T192822" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4089417148/" title="20090216T213645 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/4089417148_e628cb9179_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090216T213645" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4089433378/" title="20090520T185057_132-4832 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2459/4089433378_f5ec08f56f_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090520T185057_132-4832" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4088680205/" title="20090520T214658_132-4929 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2580/4088680205_dcfc6e9c82_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090520T214658_132-4929" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4088686663/" title="20090720T184800_132-7322 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2766/4088686663_8ea3d18898_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090720T184800_132-7322" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4088692151/" title="20090720T220309_132-7386 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2608/4088692151_b6287e8229_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="20090720T220309_132-7386" border="0" /></a></p>

<p>and some food:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4089446328/" title="20090720T184020_132-7318 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/4089446328_5886ec90fc_m.jpg" width="160" height="240" alt="20090720T184020_132-7318" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/4089446922/" title="20090720T185124_132-7323 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2634/4089446922_7af8d43d92_m.jpg" width="160" height="240" alt="20090720T185124_132-7323" border="0" /></a></p>

<p>Now the question is: when is the next meeting?</p>
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		<title>CSS tables at WSG</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the Web Standards Group meeting back in November I ended up with a book &#8211; which I have yet to read.

But maybe I don&#8217;t have to :)

The talk at Last night&#8217;s meeting was from one of the authors of the book, Kevin Yank, who talked about CSS tables which has been supported by Firefox [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/" title="Web Standards Group - Welcome to the Web Standards Group">Web Standards Group</a> meeting <a href="http://popcorn.cx/blog/2008/11/is-everything-i-know-about-css-wrong/" title="Is everything I know about CSS wrong? - popcorn.cx">back in November</a> I ended up with a <a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/books/csswrong1/" title="Everything You Know About CSS Is Wrong! - SitePoint Books">book</a> &#8211; which I have yet to read.</p>

<p>But maybe I don&#8217;t have to :)</p>

<p>The talk at <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/event/164" title="Web Standards Group - February meeting (Melbourne)">Last night&#8217;s meeting</a> was from one of the authors of the book, <a href="http://www.kevinyank.com/" title="Kevin Yank is a professional know-it-all">Kevin Yank</a>, who talked about CSS tables which has been supported by Firefox and Opera for quote some time, but will be finally supported in the yet to be released <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_8" title="Internet Explorer 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia">Internet Explorer 8</a>.</p>

<p>As well as listening to an excellent talk I was able to catch up with a few people, mostly <a href="http://www.wezm.net/" title="WezM.net">Wes</a> but others I know from WSG.  As usual I had my camera with me and took quite a few photos, all in RAW which should force me to improve my <a href="http://popcorn.cx/blog/2009/02/improving-my-digital-workflow/" title="Improving my digital workflow - popcorn.cx">digital workflow</a>.</p>
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		<title>November&#8217;s WSG photos</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have uploaded photos from last Monday&#8217;s WSG meeting:









Web Standards Group (November 2008) &#8211; a set on Flickr
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have uploaded photos from last <a href="http://popcorn.cx/blog/2008/11/is-everything-i-know-about-css-wrong/" title="Is everything I know about CSS wrong? - popcorn.cx">Monday&#8217;s WSG meeting</a>:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/3051499293/" title="Ian Stewart and Chris Sampson answering questions by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/3051499293_4518e91109.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Ian Stewart and Chris Sampson answering questions" /></a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/3051496923/" title="IMG_9263 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/3051496923_322a11df10.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="IMG_9263" /></a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/3052336102/" title="IMG_9286 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/3052336102_ffd98d9014.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="IMG_9286" /></a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/3051499933/" title="IMG_9329 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/3051499933_a9d72953ef.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="IMG_9329" /></a></p>

<p><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157609780488780/">Web Standards Group (November 2008) &#8211; a set on Flickr</a></p>
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		<title>Is everything I know about CSS wrong?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t know that much about CSS anyway, but I now have a book to tell me.

This was a door prize at Monday&#8217;s Web Standards Group meeting where I listened to how the website for the Premier of Victoria was redone to better engage with users through the use of the open source CMS Joomla [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that much about CSS anyway, but I now have a <a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/books/csswrong1/" title="Everything You Know About CSS Is Wrong! - SitePoint Books">book</a> to tell me.</p>

<p>This was a door prize at <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/event/160" title="Web Standards Group - November meeting (Melbourne)">Monday&#8217;s Web Standards Group meeting</a> where I listened to how the website for the <a href="http://premier.vic.gov.au/" title="Home - Premier of Victoria, Australia">Premier of Victoria</a> was redone to better engage with users through the use of the open source CMS <a href="http://www.joomla.org/" title="Joomla!">Joomla</a> and the tie in with services such as <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/premierofvictoria/" title="Flickr: premierofvictoria's Photostream">Flickr</a> and <a href="http://au.youtube.com/user/premierofvictoria" title="YouTube - premierofvictoria's Channel">YouTube</a>.</p>

<p>As usual I was also taking photos.  However as there were so many people the talks were not held in the back room where my 28mm lens works quite nicely, they were held in the main room and the lens struggled.  The <a href="http://popcorn.cx/blog/2008/04/another-try-of-the-50mm-lens-at-wsg-melbourne/" title="Another try of the 50mm lens at WSG Melbourne - popcorn.cx">April meeting</a> was also in the main room and the 50mm f/1.8 lens I borrowed worked quite well.  Especially across the room to where the speakers were.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ll be keeping an eye out on eBay for a 50mm lens.  In order of preference: the f/1.4, an original f/1.8 and then the II f/1.8.</p>
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		<title>September&#8217;s WSG photos</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In time for tomorrow&#8217;s Web Standards Group meeting I have uploaded photos from the September meeting:







Web Standards Group (September 2008) &#8211; a set on Flickr
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In time for <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/event/160" title="Web Standards Group - November meeting (Melbourne)">tomorrow&#8217;s Web Standards Group meeting</a> I have uploaded photos from the <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/event/158" title="Web Standards Group - September meeting (Melbourne)">September meeting</a>:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/3034268466/" title="The catering by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/3034268466_3a9ef095a6.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="The catering" /></a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/3034268610/" title="Andreas and Charles setting up by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/3034268610_d7fa9bdcda.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Andreas and Charles setting up" /></a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/3034268910/" title="Impromptu laptop stand by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/3034268910_e73129b9d1.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Impromptu laptop stand" /></a></p>

<p><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157609161683200/">Web Standards Group (September 2008) &#8211; a set on Flickr</a></p>
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		<title>PM and WSG photos</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After a long delay I have finally caught up with putting my photos from Melbourne Perl Mongers and the Web Standards Group up on Flickr:


Melbourne Perl Mongers (June 2008)
Melbourne Perl Mongers (August 2008)
Web Standards Group (August 2008)


At some later point I need to change the name of each photo to be descriptive, not just the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a long delay I have finally caught up with putting my photos from Melbourne Perl Mongers and the Web Standards Group up on Flickr:</p>

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<li><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157607551773031/">Melbourne Perl Mongers (June 2008)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157607551838363/">Melbourne Perl Mongers (August 2008)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157607552000329/">Web Standards Group (August 2008)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>At some later point I need to change the name of each photo to be descriptive, not just the image filename.</p>
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		<title>Two different 50mm lenses</title>
		<link>http://popcorn.cx/blog/2008/05/435/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week contained both a Perl Mongers meeting and a Web Standards Group meeting.  I have just finished sorting through the photos I took and have uploaded the best (not so much for WSG) to Flickr.

Wednesday night was Perl Mongers at a new location, across the road from Federation Square.  Wes brought along [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week contained both a <a href="http://melbourne.pm.org/" title="Melbourne Perl Mongers">Perl Mongers</a> meeting and a <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/meetings/melbourne.cfm" title="Web Standards Group - Melbourne Meetings">Web Standards Group</a> meeting.  I have just finished sorting through the photos I took and have uploaded the best (not so much for WSG) to Flickr.</p>

<p>Wednesday night was Perl Mongers at a new location, across the road from Federation Square.  Wes brought along his 50mm f/1.4 lens which is a significant improvement over the 50mm f/1.8 lens that I had used previously.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/2510550625/" title="IMG_5253 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3253/2510550625_a4150527e7.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="IMG_5253" /></a></p>

<p><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157605173359026/">Melbourne Perl Mongers (May 2008) &#8211; a set on Flickr</a></p>

<p>(That raspberry wheat beer was very popular&#8230;)</p>

<p>On the Thursday night was a WSG meeting, tied in with the Web Directions South conference, where I was back to borrowing the 50mm f/1.8 lens.   There was hardly any light and the lens (and camera) really struggled.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/2510578493/" title="IMG_5332 by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2080/2510578493_61f2b7612f.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="IMG_5332" /></a></p>

<p><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157605173598890/">Web Standards Group (May 2008) &#8211; a set on Flickr</a></p>

<p>While most of the photos look ok when small, some are really bad when the large versions are viewed.  Adjusting the light levels just made it worse.  </p>

<p>The upshot of all this is that I have more practical experience with different lenses and I now know that in the situation where a 50mm lens (on a crop body) is suitable, I should really get the f/1.4 over the f/1.8.  A pity about the massive price difference.</p>
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		<title>Another try of the 50mm lens at WSG Melbourne</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night I went to the April Web Standards Group meeting where Gerry Gaffney talked about how users really search and John Allsopp talked about the web away from the desktop, in particular on mobile devices.

But that isn&#8217;t really what I want to talk about.

In a repeat of the recent Perl Mongers meeting I borrowed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I went to the <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/meetings/index.cfm?event_id=151" title="Web Standards Group - April meeting (Melbourne)">April Web Standards Group meeting</a> where Gerry Gaffney talked about how users really search and John Allsopp talked about the web away from the desktop, in particular on mobile devices.</p>

<p>But that isn&#8217;t really what I want to talk about.</p>

<p>In a repeat of the recent <a href="http://popcorn.cx/blog/2008/04/trying-out-a-lens-at-the-new-perl-mongers-location/" title="Trying out a lens at the new Perl Mongers location - popcorn.cx">Perl Mongers meeting</a> I borrowed a co-workers <a href="http://www.canon.com.au/products/cameras_lenses_accessories/standard_lenses/ef50mmF18ii.aspx" title="Canon Australia - EF 50mm f/1.8 II">50mm f/1.8 lens</a>.  This time I kept the lens on my camera all night as it was working really well.</p>

<p>At the venue there was hardly any light but I was able to <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/sets/72157604704153012/" title="Web Standards Group (April 2008) - a set on Flickr">get some shots</a>:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/2438655228/" title="Gerry Gaffney on How Users Really Search by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2251/2438655228_98818a9027.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Gerry Gaffney on How Users Really Search" /></a><br />Downlight above Gerry, reflection from the projected image and light from the laptop screen.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/2437833747/" title="John Allsopp on The Web Beyond The Desktop by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/2437833747_18cf742774.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="John Allsopp on The Web Beyond The Desktop" /></a><br />John was directly lit by the projector, downlight for the background.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/popcorncx/2438654876/" title="Post talk drinks by Stephen Edmonds, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2297/2438654876_606f9ac357.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Post talk drinks" /></a><br />Light from behind the bar.</p>

<p>In this case the narrow angle of view at the 50mm  turned out to be what was needed as I was able to take these photos from the other side of the room.  It is definitely something to consider in my future lens choice.</p>

<p>One other change I made was that instead of having the camera in aperture priority with it wide open, I had it in shutter priority at (mostly) 1/25 second in order to freeze action with the intention of lightening the photos later if they were a bit too dark.  It turns out that I only needed to do that to one photo that had nowhere near enough light.</p>
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		<title>The &#8216;talk&#8217; and the &#8216;talks&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight, I went into the city for the second time this week (the first was Amazon Web Services on Monday).  This time for the February Web Standards Group meeting with Paul presenting the latest version of Starting an Open Source Business.

I wasn&#8217;t that interested in the talk as I had already seen it, definitely [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight, I went into the city for the second time this week (the first was <a href="http://popcorn.cx/blog/2008/02/amazon-web-services/" title="Amazon Web Services - popcorn.cx">Amazon Web Services</a> on Monday).  This time for the <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/meetings/index.cfm?event_id=149" title="Web Standards Group - February meeting (Melbourne)">February Web Standards Group meeting</a> with <a href="http://pjf.id.au/" title="PJF's Pages - Paul Fenwick's Homepage">Paul</a> presenting the latest version of <a href="http://pjf.id.au/business/business.html" title="PJF's Pages - Starting an Open Source Business">Starting an Open Source Business</a>.</p>

<p>I wasn&#8217;t that interested in the talk as I had already seen it, definitely at a <a href="http://melbourne.pm.org/" title="Melbourne Perl Mongers">perl mongers</a> meeting leading up to an <a href="http://www.osdc.com.au/" title="Open Source Developers' Conference">OSDC</a> and possibly another time (excellent all times I&#8217;ve heard it).  But as I was saying to someone earlier in the week: </p>

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  <p>&#8220;The &#8216;talk&#8217; doesn&#8217;t matter, the &#8216;talks&#8217; do&#8221;</p>
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<p>After <a href="http://linux.conf.au/" title="Home - linux.conf.au 2008 | 28 Jan - 2 Feb | LCA2008 in MEL8OURNE">linux.conf.au 2008</a> was over I really regretted not going as it won&#8217;t be held in Melbourne for a few years.  Then by the time I thought about going to <a href="http://barcampmelbourne.org/" title="BarCamp Melbourne">BarCamp Melbourne</a> the registrations were well over the limit.  More regret as I hear it too was excellent.</p>

<p>Because of this I decided that I will make much more of an effort in going to (and possibly helping with) more of these type of community events.   Even if the topic of the event doesn&#8217;t necessarily interest me.  I generally get as much or more out of the discussions over drinks/dinner (the &#8216;talks&#8217;) than I get out of the main presentation (the &#8216;talk&#8217;).   It is this type of thing that makes it a community.</p>
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		<title>Blogging tools for more than blogs</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight I went into the city to hear James Farmer ask Whoever Said Blogging Tools Were Just For Blogs? at a Web Standards Group meeting.

Compared to the Webates the turnout was low, but it was still respectable.  As for the talk itself, it was good.  Although it was less technical than I had [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight I went into the city to hear <a href="http://incsub.org/blog/" title="incorporated subversion - education, media, community">James Farmer</a> ask <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/meetings/index.cfm?event_id=102" title="Web Standards Group - December meeting (Melbourne)">Whoever Said Blogging Tools Were Just For Blogs?</a> at a <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/" title="Web Standards Group - Welcome to the Web Standards Group">Web Standards Group</a> meeting.</p>

<p>Compared to the <a href="http://popcorn.cx/blog/2007/08/webates-social-ajax-tables/" title="Webates: Social ajax tables - popcorn.cx">Webates</a> the turnout was low, but it was still respectable.  As for the talk itself, it was good.  Although it was less technical than I had hoped, it still showed how blog tools can be used for a sites that does not look like a blog, instead it can (for example) look like a news/magazine site.</p>

<p>Afterward we ajourned to the pub where discussions continued.  It is a different experience talking with people that are not as technically involved as I am as they provide an alternate perspective.</p>

<p>One other thing is that this has encouraged me to having a proper look at converting my friend&#8217;s site (<a href="http://www.ride-extravaganza.com/" title="David's Amusement Ride Extravaganza - Home">ride-extravaganza.com</a>) to be based on Wordpress which would make editing easier and provide the ability for vistors to leave comments about each ride.</p>
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